No; your second example is not an accident.

I specifically quoted your second example, "incidents where idiot who think having a gun makes them right, shoot someone just because they cut them off on the highway."

That would be a crime. That would not be an accident.

So, do gun laws affect crime or not?

The Gun Debate (explained for Liberals) - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-06-30 19:44:05 (66 views) (691 thread views)
- yawn, US=Gun free for all/high crime. UK= guns - hard to get/high crime. CH=guns for all/ 2009-06-30 22:50:14 (30 views)
  - So given your tally, why have gun laws? (nt) - ChipM 2009-07-01 08:54:21 (18 views)
    - to keep them out of the hands of as many psychos - as possible? 2009-07-01 11:38:02 (26 views)
      "guns laws have no direct connection to gun crime" - ChipM 2009-07-01 13:20:02 (27 views)
      Gun laws very much prevent accidents - for one 2009-07-02 09:13:16 (21 views)
      You need to pick one point of view or the other. - ChipM 2009-07-02 10:27:24 (19 views)
      accidents are crimes? - nice! 2009-07-02 11:43:34 (20 views)
      No; your second example is not an accident. - ChipM 2009-07-02 13:12:27 (20 views)
      Ah c'mon Chip. Haven't you ever accidentally.... - Twigand Berries 2009-07-07 23:51:09 (11 views)
      Well yes they do, but they are not perfect, why - would you argue against laws... 2009-07-02 13:29:09 (21 views)
      If the world is not the same as it was 200+ years - ago, then amend the constitution. 2009-07-06 19:00:33 (13 views)
      I'm just amazed at how you argue against yourself. - ChipM 2009-07-02 13:46:58 (17 views)
      This is the end. Beautiful friend.... the end (nt) - The Doors 2009-07-07 23:07:39 (10 views)
      Re: Well yes they do, but they are not perfect, w - ChipM 2009-07-02 13:43:54 (20 views)
      the problem is not the guns, it's the - attitude 2009-07-02 17:16:57 (18 views)
      No, you need - to be honest. 2009-07-06 19:03:01 (16 views)
      I agree with your sentiment, not your conclusions - ChipM 2009-07-06 10:26:38 (14 views)
      Cops bounce you off a trunk for "unconcealed"? - Real Time Risk Management, LLC 2009-07-01 15:08:03 (26 views)
      AnonymousLEE to the rescue! (nt) - -cb3 2009-07-01 20:00:13 (15 views)
      In Florida you need my anti-terrorism training boy - Real Time Risk Management, LLC 2009-07-01 23:49:26 (16 views)
      In Florida you did 3 years' hard prison time, Lee (nt) (pic) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-02 07:58:05 (20 views)
      Re: In Florida you did 3 years' hard prison time, Lee (nt) (pic) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-02 08:00:04 (21 views)
      SEAL/Hostage Rescue, Baby Blaclwater, etc LIES! - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 09:47:57 (19 views)
      Felonies, heroin, beating pregnant women: SCUMBAG (nt) - Reciprocity ©² 2009-07-02 19:15:30 (19 views)
      SO shrill and agitated you are! Hilarious! (url) - TYPO 2009-07-02 19:29:49 (33 views)
      Can one check out a LIE at this Lie Library? - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 20:39:49 (18 views)
      YES! Most of the LIE LIBRARY content consists of - TYPO 2009-07-02 20:55:12 (21 views)
      So this David Lee is a liar and a fraud my friend? - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 21:20:32 (16 views)
      YES, a LIAR and a FRAUD, Your question reminds - TYPO 2009-07-02 21:28:55 (16 views)
      Fascinating that people tolerate this sad man DLS - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 21:54:07 (18 views)
      Fascinating how OBSESSED with him you are 24/7 (nt) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-07 11:40:59 (11 views)
      This is the end.... beautiful friend.... your end - Jim Morrison & The Doors 2009-07-07 23:35:12 (10 views)
      IRONY (nt) - Charles Romneos ©² 2009-07-02 19:41:48 (14 views)
      Yup: he's still running from who & what he is (nt) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-01 22:37:04 (14 views)
      Nice play on Baldy the Self-Owned Roadfly Moron - Real Time Risk Management, LLC 2009-07-01 23:46:37 (17 views)
      Baldy the Self-Owned Roadfly Moron (nt) (pic) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-02 07:56:59 (20 views)
      Baldy the Self-Owned Roadfly Moron (nt) (pic) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-02 07:59:27 (19 views)
      Outed as a LIAR... DLS-Self-Owned Roadfly Moron! - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 09:38:36 (14 views)
      Get some new material, you analbeaded phaggott (nt) (pic) - Reciprocity ©² 2009-07-02 19:16:27 (16 views)
      heh heh heh - so agitated and shrill. Nice LIE (url) - TYPO 2009-07-02 19:21:58 (22 views)
      And, on cue, the psychopath changes IP's yet again (nt) - Charles Romneos ©² 2009-07-02 19:26:57 (15 views)
      FIND THE DUPER! (pic) - TYPO 2009-07-02 19:38:59 (21 views)
      FIND YOUR BALLSACK! - Charles Romneos ©² 2009-07-02 19:41:11 (22 views)
      so shrill and agitated! heh heh. You find Baldy (pic) - TYPO 2009-07-02 20:34:42 (18 views)
      You project more than anyone here, psychopath (nt) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-02 21:50:03 (15 views)
      Whose social security number is that Baldy? - SEAL Team Bald Davey Duper 2009-07-05 09:24:41 (20 views)
      Yours, psycho. In the public domain since 2002> (pic) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-07 11:40:22 (13 views)
      It's yours Lee. You are so OWNED!!! - 478-78-7402 2009-07-06 18:34:03 (15 views)
      Relevance? (nt) - ChipM 2009-07-01 15:42:15 (15 views)
      You jacket flew up and a citizen saw your pistola - Real Time Risk Management, LLC 2009-07-01 23:51:36 (17 views)
      You live in a fantasy world, don't you? - ChipM 2009-07-02 08:43:37 (24 views)
      Your over-the-top fascination with guns is wacked - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 09:43:43 (21 views)
      that justifies your total fabrication of stories? - ChipM 2009-07-02 10:25:19 (21 views)
      Really... don't you believe everything Baldy says? - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 10:33:47 (17 views)
      Baldy (pic) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-02 19:17:57 (20 views)
      Davey sees Baldy every morning! (pic) - TYPO 2009-07-02 20:30:43 (15 views)
      Why does this Bald David not have a life or wife? - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 21:04:14 (15 views)
      He has a wife, but due to his behavior not for - TYPO 2009-07-02 21:20:26 (17 views)
      Yes I see.... and I believe I "know" her very well - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 21:36:35 (16 views)
      See, you have a major issue with facts. - ChipM 2009-07-02 10:48:37 (22 views)
      Would be glad to discuss this off-line mister - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 11:38:30 (21 views)
      Post your email up, junkie (nt) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-02 19:19:12 (13 views)
      DEAD SILENCE!!! - Karnac Lee is Magnificent 2009-07-02 18:20:55 (15 views)
      Post yours up first, baldy (nt) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-02 19:19:53 (16 views)
      You see Baldy whenever you want! (pic) - TYPO 2009-07-02 20:39:06 (19 views)
      Baldy (nt) (pic) - 478-78-7402 ©² 2009-07-07 11:41:46 (10 views)
      Why is this Bald David Lee so in love with Lee? - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 20:41:46 (14 views)
      Yes, in fact, he does...he lives 'Deadwood' (nt) - Cracka Jihad ©² 2009-07-02 09:14:22 (18 views)
      I live in LIE WORLD! Everyone come on over and (url) - TYPO 2009-07-02 21:14:09 (22 views)
      Can not get over tidal wave of this David Lee lies - Javier - Central Market bag boy, Austin 2009-07-02 22:13:13 (14 views)
      Likely personal experience, LOL ;>) (nt) - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 20:36:25 (13 views)
      LOL, get your arse kicked again? - Twigand Berries 2009-07-01 15:28:14 (18 views)
  - Yet Americans feel safer than anyone else. (nt) - Cool Breeze 2009-07-01 07:50:16 (13 views)
    - prove - it 2009-07-01 11:35:05 (21 views)
      Ask you u shall receive (url) - Cool Breeze 2009-07-01 11:56:37 (24 views)
      an editorial? surely you - jest. 2009-07-01 12:29:48 (16 views)
      Swiss? Of course, IIRC by law they must have a - Cool Breeze 2009-07-01 13:07:20 (22 views)
      so you were wrong? - OK, good 2009-07-02 09:15:36 (16 views)
      I know that at one time each and every Swiss male - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 15:14:54 (20 views)
      They still do by law. It's called - Rheinheitsgebot. 2009-07-01 22:17:43 (19 views)
  - Washington D.C. has a ban on most guns and the - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-06-30 23:00:46 (25 views)
    - ban lifted; is the murder rate lower now? - Charlton Heston 2009-07-01 06:18:17 (22 views)
      D.C. defied the lifting of the ban as did Chicago - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 13:38:52 (20 views)
      They have not - Charlton Heston 2009-07-02 06:01:06 (18 views)
- Maybe you ought to look up "liberal"... - RonW 2009-06-30 20:36:40 (34 views)
  - Generally speaking, gun control is an issue for - ChipM 2009-07-01 08:58:10 (26 views)
    - The complete opposite of their real meanings. - RonW 2009-07-01 19:32:19 (20 views)
      Hear hear. (nt) - ChipM 2009-07-02 08:45:37 (12 views)
      Agreed. Twisted words these days. (nt) - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 20:39:30 (14 views)
  - I realize that 'liberal' has become too big of an - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-06-30 22:38:13 (32 views)
    - You didn't look it up, did you? - RonW 2009-07-01 19:32:49 (18 views)
      Democrats and Socialists. - Twigand Berries 2009-07-01 20:43:52 (20 views)
      Not trying to hurt anybody... - RonW 2009-07-02 19:12:00 (19 views)
      As well as aversion to reality. - Twigand Berries 2009-07-02 21:27:38 (17 views)
      That is the original meaning, yes, however, - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 20:28:34 (20 views)
    - BTW, your leader claimed Obama is already - planning to run for a third term 2009-06-30 22:53:33 (24 views)
      Where did you get this information? (nt) - ChipM 2009-07-01 09:06:42 (16 views)
      funny how you guys always act shocked by what (url) - the voice'' of republicans spouts... 2009-07-01 11:32:59 (21 views)
      How would I know what in the world he says? - ChipM 2009-07-01 13:18:57 (19 views)
      Hmmm.....so lets work on this with a little logic. - Twigand Berries 2009-07-01 12:55:52 (18 views)
      LOL...so why are republican leaders grovelling - at his feet? 2009-07-02 09:18:32 (15 views)
      Got links? (nt) - Twigand Berries 2009-07-02 15:12:29 (16 views)
      Is the Weiser Dance catching (url) - on? 2009-07-06 11:07:21 (13 views)
      Rush - The Great Graveler Of Many An Azz - in a (nt) - strictly bipartisan way, of course, hehe ©⁸⁴ 2009-07-01 15:19:27 (12 views)
      My leader? WTF you smokin'? (nt) - m5todd ©⁸⁴ 2009-06-30 22:56:12 (12 views)
  - LOL, yeah he is. (nt) - Twigand Berries 2009-06-30 21:37:33 (13 views)